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27 May 2008 @ 03:30 pm
I'm home from NY.  The pics will take some compiling before they are ready to share.

In the meantime, I'm gonna natter on about barguments.  You see, I recently encountered a little book in Books a Million entitled Barguments, which explained the term -- it's a useless but entertaining argument you have while drunk -- and setting forth the rules:

- It can not concern any truly important or controversial issue.  While geeks may disagree about the relative importance of an argument about Superman's cape getting stuck in jet engines, we can surely all agree that race relations and typhoons in foreign countries are not appropriate topics for a bargument.

- It can not be won conclusively.  The best barguments should attract proponents to both sides of the issue in equal amounts, who can even switch sides at random, and it should be able to last all night.

- It should not be won with logic or research.  Statements such as "But I read an article once..." are permitted.  Actually going to Wikipedia?  Right out.  And the more tortured your logic is, the better for the bargument.  The voice of reason has no place here.  Fortunately, what constitutes a voice of reason is highly subject to debate.

The reason I'm talking about this is, no sooner had I perused this great little book, than I found myself stumbling across barguments left and right.

Jeff and I were in an elevator with several highly toasted individuals last night who directly appealed to us for our opinion on their bargument-of-the-moment:  do scars gotten in childhood or infancy get bigger as you get older?

That was nothing, though.  Jeff and I came up with our own bargument last week, without even needing to be drunk, and it was the most awesome bargument yet.

Who would win in a fight:  Dr. Bailey or Dr. House?

Jeff was square on the side of Dr. House, which I thought was completely and totally ridiculous, because Bailey can so OBVIOUSLY kick House's ass with one hand behind her back.  Jeff was considering House's underhanded, long-term, scheming behavior.  But from my POV, the long-term thinker can't really drum up any long-term plans when they're busy getting their ass kicked.

We're still debating this.

Heard any good barguments lately?
jessxantha on May 27th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
definitely bailey though I think it would be a good fight 'cause house is so damn underhanded! :) so it probably depends on what sort of a fight it was and how long it lasted and whether it was planned or not.

heh. can't wait to read trip report / see pics! ;)
J.D.arasirsul on May 27th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)
Being a nerd is a two-edged sword. One of the good things about nerds is that we don't need alcohol to have a good bargument.

The flip side of the coin is we've been known to go waaaay too far with them.

A group of Scandinavian nerds got into a bargument once about which would win in a fight, a Galaxy-class cruiser (Star Trek: The Next Generation) or an Omega-class Destroyer (Babylon 5).

The movies they wound up creating now have DVDs available. With subtitles in English, Finnish, Norwegian, Danish, and of course, Klingon...

Waaaay too far.
teacherla on May 27th, 2008 09:44 pm (UTC)
My friend and I have a serial bargument at virtually every social occasion: have I paid him back yet for drinking the last beer that one time or not?

Other ppl must be sick of this, but apparently it's so entertaining that we can't stop resurrecting it.

Somehow he's gotten me up to promising to buy him breakfast.
rogue equestrian: LOM:: Sam is ready to fight youelvinborn on May 28th, 2008 12:47 am (UTC)
I feel that I should point out that Bailey is not above her own evilness. Sure, House would probably try to hit her while her back was turned, but this is Bailey. She has eyes in the back of her head, and thus does not need to ever turn her back. You know, until she's finished kicking House's ass.
chasesbunnieschasesbunnies on May 28th, 2008 02:31 am (UTC)
Dr. House vs. Bailey
Yeah, but like house has sidekicks. Erm I mean interns. While Bailey is focusing on hurting house his pack of sidekicks could take her from the sides.

Like I said Dr. House would soo not fight fair.
Wiseacreewin on May 28th, 2008 02:32 am (UTC)
Re: Dr. House vs. Bailey
Bailey has more of them.
rogue equestrian: House: Sex could kill youelvinborn on May 28th, 2008 02:36 am (UTC)
Re: Dr. House vs. Bailey
but think about House's sidekicks. They're all backstabbers who would really quite enjoy watching a tiny righteous woman kick House's butt around the hospital. And Bailey has minions. You know they'd hold back House's sidekicks. They actually respect her and it would just be insulting to let their leader go in alone. Think of the things they would do to them! They could drive them insane with their drama! or just sex them into stupor...

(I swear, I'm a fan of both shows)
(Anonymous) on May 30th, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
Re: Dr. House vs. Bailey
Hi Barguers. This is Doug Hanks, the author. Love the exchanges here. And I'm sensing this is even without the assistance of a few beers. I linked this back-and-forth to my blog. You can check it out at barguments.com (where you can also vote on other barguments and submit your own).